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	<title>Comments on: The Big X Window Manager Guide (with Screenshots)</title>
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		<title>By: seo</title>
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		<dc:creator>seo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A window manager in GNU/Linux is a piece of software which controls placement and appearance of windows in a graphical user interface in X. So, what you get is a module which could be used in a desktop environment, or as a desktop environment (in conjuction with other modules, such as a idesk). All the WMs listed here can easily be obtained through your distribution’s respective repositories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A window manager in GNU/Linux is a piece of software which controls placement and appearance of windows in a graphical user interface in X. So, what you get is a module which could be used in a desktop environment, or as a desktop environment (in conjuction with other modules, such as a idesk). All the WMs listed here can easily be obtained through your distribution’s respective repositories.</p>
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		<title>By: Böcek ilaçlama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Böcek ilaçlama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As promised, today we’ll take a look at the various interesting window managers for the X Window System which aren’t (necessarily) a part of a certain desktop environment (that means Enlightenment DR 17 doesn’t count here people, sorry, please take a look at the desktop environment guide)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As promised, today we’ll take a look at the various interesting window managers for the X Window System which aren’t (necessarily) a part of a certain desktop environment (that means Enlightenment DR 17 doesn’t count here people, sorry, please take a look at the desktop environment guide)</p>
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		<title>By: Psykonerd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psykonerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like a windowmanager, where you could place dropdown-boxes allover the desktop. In these drobboxes it should be possible to start programs, and many more things like edit stuf&#039;shit. 
 I&#039;d like to be able to edit/change my desktop the way I want, no districtions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like a windowmanager, where you could place dropdown-boxes allover the desktop. In these drobboxes it should be possible to start programs, and many more things like edit stuf&#8217;shit.<br />
 I&#8217;d like to be able to edit/change my desktop the way I want, no districtions.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Blackbox?
My firewall is an OpenBSD box with three NICs. I bridge two of the NICs and the third cron&#039;s my logs to my hidden subnet. I&#039;m running PF, Etherape, and Snort. I don&#039;t need fancy translucent windows, a pager, a taskbar, or eye candy. What I need is a small, fast, reliable gui to monitor my firewall/IDS. Blackbox rocks!
P.S. It works great on my Soekris appliances too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Blackbox?<br />
My firewall is an OpenBSD box with three NICs. I bridge two of the NICs and the third cron&#8217;s my logs to my hidden subnet. I&#8217;m running PF, Etherape, and Snort. I don&#8217;t need fancy translucent windows, a pager, a taskbar, or eye candy. What I need is a small, fast, reliable gui to monitor my firewall/IDS. Blackbox rocks!<br />
P.S. It works great on my Soekris appliances too.</p>
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		<title>By: Titus Sphinctus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Titus Sphinctus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 02:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dwm rules</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dwm rules</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 01:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely love Window Maker.  I tried Fluxbox briefly, but it seemed a little buggy and I couldn&#039;t get it configured just right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely love Window Maker.  I tried Fluxbox briefly, but it seemed a little buggy and I couldn&#8217;t get it configured just right.</p>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good guide, nice little eye opener on what is out there.
Thought it might be woth a mention - Windowmaker does, at first flance, look good, judging from that voting guide on xwinman website. However, the vote count is about 3000 - and that page hasnt been updated for yeeeeeeears :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good guide, nice little eye opener on what is out there.<br />
Thought it might be woth a mention &#8211; Windowmaker does, at first flance, look good, judging from that voting guide on xwinman website. However, the vote count is about 3000 &#8211; and that page hasnt been updated for yeeeeeeears <img src='http://www.internetling.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cabaleb</title>
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		<dc:creator>cabaleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;#  BSDz0r Says:
July 18th, 2008 at 04:52

Do your research

Fluxbox is also under the MIT licence, you said yourself, itâ€™s based off of the blackbox code base.

They canâ€™t relicense other peoples codeâ€¦[...]&quot;


Do yours, BSDz0r...
Cause yes, they can... Since MIT licence is a permissive one, the can relicence a MIT software as GPL, and even as proprietary copyrighted and closed source one if they want... even though there is no point in doing such a thing as the original source  still remains free...
The only thing you can&#039;t do with such a licence is to patent the code with an even more permissive licence, and it doesn&#039;t exist, or it&#039;s named &quot;public domain&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;#  BSDz0r Says:<br />
July 18th, 2008 at 04:52</p>
<p>Do your research</p>
<p>Fluxbox is also under the MIT licence, you said yourself, itâ€™s based off of the blackbox code base.</p>
<p>They canâ€™t relicense other peoples codeâ€¦[...]&#8221;</p>
<p>Do yours, BSDz0r&#8230;<br />
Cause yes, they can&#8230; Since MIT licence is a permissive one, the can relicence a MIT software as GPL, and even as proprietary copyrighted and closed source one if they want&#8230; even though there is no point in doing such a thing as the original source  still remains free&#8230;<br />
The only thing you can&#8217;t do with such a licence is to patent the code with an even more permissive licence, and it doesn&#8217;t exist, or it&#8217;s named &#8220;public domain&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The 5 Best Xfce - based Linux Distributions &#187; Linux, open source and me at Internetling dot com</title>
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		<dc:creator>The 5 Best Xfce - based Linux Distributions &#187; Linux, open source and me at Internetling dot com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been talking a lot about window managers and desktop environments. Nowadays most major distros simply go for KDE or GNOME, but it is not [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been talking a lot about window managers and desktop environments. Nowadays most major distros simply go for KDE or GNOME, but it is not [...]</p>
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		<title>By: happy penguin</title>
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		<dc:creator>happy penguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was using GNOME for a long time with an old computer.  GNOME is barely tolerable on an old computer.  Until a few months ago I didn&#039;t realize how easy it is to use icewm instead.  If you can read and write bash scripts, customizing icewm is actually much easier than messing around with GNOME&#039;s databases and complexity.  For instance, with GNOME if you want things to happen automatically when you log in there&#039;s a gnome-sessions GUI widget you have to mess with.  With icewm there&#039;s one file called ~/.icewm/startup and for instance mine looks like this:

#!/bin/sh
xrandr --size 1024x768
nautilus --no-default-window &amp;
pidgin &amp;

and voila nautilus is running your desktop background and icons, which it&#039;s good at, and GNOME is NOT running your taskbar, and metacity is NOT running your windowframes, and your whole computer is running a LOT faster.

icewm&#039;s menu support is excellent.  Any crazy thing I install with aptitude ends up somewhere sensible in the programs menu, even obscure things I would expect to have to add by hand somehow.  Maybe it&#039;s all just built into Debian, who knows.  Anyway, when it comes to low-profile desktops, install GNOME for the applications but let icewm run the desktop, there&#039;s just no reason not to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was using GNOME for a long time with an old computer.  GNOME is barely tolerable on an old computer.  Until a few months ago I didn&#8217;t realize how easy it is to use icewm instead.  If you can read and write bash scripts, customizing icewm is actually much easier than messing around with GNOME&#8217;s databases and complexity.  For instance, with GNOME if you want things to happen automatically when you log in there&#8217;s a gnome-sessions GUI widget you have to mess with.  With icewm there&#8217;s one file called ~/.icewm/startup and for instance mine looks like this:</p>
<p>#!/bin/sh<br />
xrandr &#8211;size 1024&#215;768<br />
nautilus &#8211;no-default-window &amp;<br />
pidgin &amp;</p>
<p>and voila nautilus is running your desktop background and icons, which it&#8217;s good at, and GNOME is NOT running your taskbar, and metacity is NOT running your windowframes, and your whole computer is running a LOT faster.</p>
<p>icewm&#8217;s menu support is excellent.  Any crazy thing I install with aptitude ends up somewhere sensible in the programs menu, even obscure things I would expect to have to add by hand somehow.  Maybe it&#8217;s all just built into Debian, who knows.  Anyway, when it comes to low-profile desktops, install GNOME for the applications but let icewm run the desktop, there&#8217;s just no reason not to.</p>
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